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Decrypt the moment: the Great Famine - Zhou Enlai ordered destroyed certificate (full version)
Decrypt the moment: the Great Famine - Zhou Enlai ordered destroyed certificate (full version)
Prime Minister Zhou Enlai with an awkward-looking Nixon.
Commentary: Yang Jisheng, a former senior reporter of Xinhua News Agency, found in the process of investigating the "Great Famine" and China's top leadership is not unaware of the fact that a large number of starving people in the Great Famine , but has taken a variety of ways this whitewash to cover up the truth. With the truth gradually Secret People found some good image in the past, leaders have played a disgraceful role in that catastrophe. Lisu:
when Chinese leaders Mao Zedong, Liu Shaoqi, Zhou Enlai, Deng Xiaoping, Peng Zhen, Chen Yun these people, they know that the Great Famine, they know the number of deaths how much they specifically what kind of reaction? Yang Jisheng,
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It should be said that they know something, but not fully know. 59 in the spring is not the reaction of various letter to them, when individual deal with the problem, there is no treatment when the global problem, no more up to consider these issues from a policy and institu! tional. Mao Zedong said, "nine fingers" and "lift a finger" thing. The case reported that the case reported, there were partial and full relations, tributaries and mainstream relations, this is a local problem is not the problem, which is a tributary of the problem is not mainstream. This is "a finger" nine fingers, nine fingers still good, so he was when a local deal with the problem. Local problem, of course, with their subjective bias, the main thing is that this system blocked message telling lies. Autocracy, lies to the prevalence of the system, those in power both to the information blockade below, at the same time the following is also blocked access to information to him ah. Under-oriented news blockade above has two advantages, one is his error that know nothing but good news, it is usually a fault of the totalitarian regime.
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* Zhou Enlai ordered destroyed certificate *
Li Su: after the Great Famine, Chinese officials have not released the number of unnatural deaths? Yang Jisheng,
not public.
Li Su: never in public? Yang Jisheng,
61 by the end of three people to put forward a survey, then Food Minister Chen Guodong, Statistics Minister Jia Qiyun, as well as the director of the General Office of the Ministry of Food Zhoubo Ping. These three individuals Zhou Boping still. Zhou Boping in the lectures by the Academy of Social Sciences, population in the 1980s to make a report about a thing that the three of them to the provinces to fill a table, in the end how many people starved to death, said that tens of millions of. Later I in order to write a book, to implement this, you can not listen to the solitary card has been personally on the Zhou Boping home to go to 2003 or 2002, went to his home and asked him these things. He admitted that indeed they carried out a survey, the death of tens of millions of Zhou Enlai saw that and quickly destroyed. A week Zhou Enlai ask you destroyed, they said destroyed, with the destruction of the three of us, ev! en the pl! ates were destroyed. Tens of millions in the end, Zhou Boping did not say. Later, I ask him, and he was mute. Just a coincidence, I talk to him, see on the wall a photo is a photo of my classmates, I said it was not often Xichang (sound)? He said how do you know, I say it is the students. The old man would have to wear the suit Gelv I interviewed, and later back to the room, with his wife often Xichang classmates. I ask him tens of millions, he said, Well, you tube doing. He taught me, in an elder's identity, there would be no negotiated. Lisu:
you do not have to ask him specific figures it? Yang Jisheng,
So I'm a fool, I will not say I was his son's classmates. Yang Jisheng,
he not only did not say, you young people do not ask this, and said these words, on the tens of millions. Then I said something silly, I said, is not twenty million, he said that this number is the number. Certainly more than twenty million. Lisu:
you Had I ask point or ask a little less? Yang Jisheng,
ask one four million, thirty million may be. Therefore, he said, because it is tens of millions, this is definitely the exact. Lisu:
and say he said that Zhou Enlai know this thing. Yang Jisheng,
report Zhou Enlai, Zhou Enlai, he hastened destroyed. The destruction of this figure, a week after Zhou Enlai asked destroyed not, they say destroyed, destroyed three of them together, even the plates are destroyed, was not of Engraving and Printing Well. Li Su: It
you know this number, this number they destroyed, in addition to Zhou Enlai, there are no other senior leaders know? Yang Jisheng,
estimated gross know. But later revealed that out is difficult to say. Because Chen counseling not say four or five million out it? Is not this figure is not easy to say.
Commentary: China National Bureau of Statistics, Li Chengrui 1997 published in the Communist Party of the "Great Leap Forward" caused by the demographic changes in the recogni! tion of C! hina has long been the period of the "Great Famine" the demographic regarded as top secret and strictly prevent leakage. He wrote: "China's current population statistics, obtained by the public security departments of the household registration not released 'Great Leap Forward' and the subsequent registration figures for the account of the difficult economic times, long-term, especially because these figures show 1960 National Population is a net reduction of 10 million more than in 1959, it was as top-secret information until 1983, the National Bureau of Statistics, the approval of the State Council, before these figures included the China Statistical Yearbook, "published in 1983, the first to at home and abroad published population figures for each year 1949 to 1982, household registration. "
* superiors and subordinates the norm *
of Li Su: Mao Zedong is the primary figure, his understanding the situation will be more of it? Than the other leaders? Yang Jisheng,
It should. System from the Chinese point of view, is not that time now are reporting only bad news more money thing, running to the money thing. The issues are set in the center, in Beijing to see a lot, rarely see in other places. In that era, such as Mao Zedong to go running around to feel good. But these provincial party secretary of Mao Zedong in front of telling lies, but speaking the truth in the real sector. Such as Li Jingquan, Sichuan Provincial Party Committee, Mao Zedong, where taking on everything, saying nothing, here we have food, but he Xiannian bargain with Chen Guodong, requisition food more than a little. He wanted to requisition a little less Chen Guodong and Xiannian want to requisition a little more, so he Xiannian front pay less how much food, he more guts to tell lies with Mao Zedong. the
explanation: not only the provincial party secretary to tell lies, even to Mao Zedong, Zhou Enlai also to conceal the truth of the "Great Famine". Norman Goodale Community College, Minnesota, US! A (Norman! dale Community College), Professor Ding Shu said Zhou Enlai "Great Leap Forward", the Communist Party of experts who have advocated early to stop the aggressive, by Mao Zedong after severe criticism in order to protect themselves immediately turned to support the "Great Leap Forward" .
Ding express: "During the 'Lushan Conference', the State Council, the Ministry of the Interior to report to the CPC Central Committee, summer shortage in 14 provinces, nine provinces summer shortage of food-insecure populations up to 300 million more than 8000 people. So when criticism of Peng Dehuai, Zhou Enlai in fact knew Peng Dehuai is justified, his mind is sober, but he is a lingering fear, gingerly, absolutely wrong 'Great Leap Forward' put forward any negative comments he never bad news to Mao Zedong reported.
Li Su: Xiannian used to be the President of China, was the Vice-Premier of the State Council,
Yang Jisheng: Department of Economic and managing financial. Lisu:
he was not a better understanding of what is going on? Yang Jisheng,
he was very understanding of the situation, but the beleaguered. He is an urban food pipe was reported to Tianjin a few days, Shenyang few days so reported, no food to eat. To export eggs, pork, and out does not go out, he also was in a hurry, so you want all day long grain to be grain, ah, you want the eggs to be meat, everything he come forward to open the conference call, a reminder of the food, reminders eggs, reminders export products He was also a system under pressure, he was in possession this matter.
* food procurement and hungry people everywhere *
Commentary: China's official media often describe Xiannian in the "Great Leap Forward" period comes to Xiannian showed pragmatic attitude. The official number of the book says, during the "Great Famine" Xiannian had proposed to reduce food requisition. Professor Ding Shu, but specializes in the "Great Famine" of the Communist Party of Experts pointed out tha! t the Jin! jiang Hotel in Shanghai, by the end of March 1959, the CPC Central Committee convened an enlarged meeting of the Political Bureau, food procurement rate jumped to 40% from 29% in 1958 . Xiannian resolutely implement, Mao Zedong's speech to be national learning Henan Province compulsorily food leapfrog to convey to the nation intensified all over the famine. Wang Yu:
"Xiannian later in the meeting of the nation's grain Mao Zedong 'pre-emptive, then start suffer' speech communicated later secretary of the Henan Provincial Committee Finance and Trade Song Chi and convey the spirit of the meeting when he said , 'Xiannian Comrade strike first, and then start suffer. now if you do not grasp the requisition of grain and implement the spirit of the Lushan Conference, the masses put food eaten to make arrangements to levy less than the food, city life. requirements in implementing the Lushan meeting spirit at the same time, his hands grasping the one hand and levy food with one hand and the spirit of early fall down the masses Reaping requisition 'The Reaping edge requisition performed in many provinces of the country, which is caused by the country began in November 1959 generally the starving people of the key reasons for wheat seedling vegetables "
" yellow flowers - great famine the Kawanishi Chronicle "book author, a former People's Liberation Army Chengdu Military Region senki newspaper edited Wang Yu pointed out, the CPC Central Committee," pre-emptive "policies greatly exacerbated the famine in Sichuan. Wang Yu-depth investigation and research on famine in western Sichuan. He said the only the Wenjiang region in November 1959 in 1960 starved to death more than 50 million people. Wang Yu:
, "that winter and spring starved to death people are out of food problems, food problems, completely food to farmers search light. central command is 'pre-emptive' to food Search all light. them throughout that farmers in hiding embezzle production. production embezzle Since you want to hide ! the truth! , you anyway, should conceal production, I decided to give you search light search light you still go hungry. Why hungry? your The food is to hide from top to bottom are of this view. "
Commentary: Road constitution text of Xinyang, Henan Province party secretary in August 1993 in the memories of the article said:" In the summer of 1960 Vice Premier Li Xiannian Guangshan County investigation into the (Xinyang regions), vehicles are starving over the road blocked, Lee cried, may think of their own requirements 'advance compulsorily food' death sentence for the Peasant. "
Lee Su: his pipe this thing, he should be very difficult to know the following, food is running out, has received does not come up, he is going to react? He is the real situation to the above report or pressure to below must complete the task? Yang Jisheng,
he still wanted to complete the task, the following situation he knew the first line because he knew this thing, but how serious he does not necessarily know that much how many people starved to death. Lisu:
as a managed economy, Deputy Prime Minister, if his food transfer does not come up, he should not be aware of the following food shortage? Yang Jisheng,
the main problem is a transportation problem, ah, when the rail system is not so developed. Lisu:
but he told Li Jingquan even when other provincial party secretary bargain Is it just because of transportation problems or other issues food tune up?
* would rather people of Sichuan starve to death, can not be starved to death in Beijing *
Yang Jisheng: Of course no food. So full and partial thing. Was saying that a person starve to death in Sichuan Village, and starve to death in the streets of Beijing, the impact of which large? "Prefer to starve to death in Sichuan, non-Beijing starve to death", which later evolved into the later evolution. Began to say that the political influence of people starved to death in Beijing than the starving people in Si! chuan Vil! lage, from the global to consider. This saying, Deng said.
Commentary: Deng Xiaoping was served as a member of the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee, member of the Secretariat. With Deng Xiaoping's words, then served as the first secretary of the CPC Southwest Bureau Project Leadership Committee to actively publicize the importance of the "lost single-car" Sichuan people's lives and so lost. , A book published in Hong Kong Wang Yu (a pseudonym East Cardiff), served as the PLA Chengdu Military Region senki reported "edit" wheat seedling vegetables yellow flowers - great famine Kawanishi Chronicle said, by the end of 1960, the Sichuan Provincial Work Conference on again The rural half a catty stay per person per day of grain, which is the standards laid down by the end of 1959. The Wenjiang party secretary Song Wenbin said: the implementation of this standard by the end of 1959 after a winter and spring have been starved to death so many people, and then get into trouble how to do? Project Leadership Committee asked Song Wenbin: "The trouble has been the first security in Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai, first Paul Chengdu, first to protect you Wenjiang?" According ZHOU Yong-open, then served as deputy secretary of the Pakistan and county party committee in charge of agriculture, recalls: then from top to bottom implement instructions: Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai food shortages, if problems affect the international image, it is incredible. "
however is per person per day half a catty stay grain, it is actually the government rhetorical Wenjiang people actually not even that food. Wang Dong Yu,
"simply can not, because it is exaggerated. account is how counted? our production by the leading operator, is counted by the government at all levels, not the actual production of the farmers. For example, grain an acre of land only hit 500 pounds, he gave you count as 1000 pounds. counted as 1,000 pounds, he said I charge you 400 pounds, 500 pounds to t! ake you, ! you have 500 pounds Well in fact he had only 500 pounds yields close finish. many places is a food do not eat vegetables at all, out of food for all, stop all public canteens partners. * Deng Xiaoping asylum
"Great Famine" major responsibility *
Li Su: We Deng Xiaoping's performance in the period of the great famine seems less clear. Deng Xiaoping performance to understand? Yang Jisheng,
,: a lot of people are unclear Deng Xiaoping in the Great Leap Forward, but I listen An Zhiwen said a word. An Zhiwen was the person in charge of the State Development Planning Commission, he said a great deal of the responsibility of Deng Xiaoping's "Great Leap Forward". I said, how big? He said that Zhou Enlai, no matter what, he presided over the work of all his dry. It's such a sentence. Later, of course, is the era of Deng Xiaoping Well, all of these issues in Deng Xiaoping word aside, are not disclosed.
Li Su: You have not found anything? Yang Jisheng,
finding out. I would check is check survey on rural policy, the investigation on the history of food, only in rural areas and food, above instructions unseen. Future file disclosure may know. But several policy of 59 years, the introduction of the two policies, with Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping, I guess it is the policy of concessions.
Li Su: You refer to the corrective policy. Yang Jisheng,
59 years of the notices, one on private plots, one is raising pigs and chickens. Both of these policies may be associated with Deng Xiaoping, my analysis, because it is consistent with Deng Xiaoping's later thinking. Start followed by booing followed downtown, Deng Xiaoping is positive, not positive he can not stand firm. Engaged in the establishment of people's communes in rural areas such as Deng Xiaoping earliest speaking.
Commentary: Deng Xiaoping as the general secretary of the CPC Central Committee responsible for front-line work is supported by the "Great Leap Forward". News of the Communis! t Party o! f China Deng Xiaoping in the "Great Leap Forward" before and after "the article said that in January 1958, Mao Zedong in Nanning Conference criticized the" rash advance "vent stiffness of 600 million people, is the wrong direction. Deng Xiaoping said in Sichuan Province, prefecture, county, community four cadres meeting on February 13, accelerate the construction of Mao Zedong and the CPC Central Committee is based on the objective conditions possible. He stressed that, as long as it is possible, not subjectivism, should be fast. In March 1958, Mao Zedong repeatedly criticized in the Chengdu conference on "rash advance", or even rise to the the wrong route height, said "aggressive", "Marxist", "rash advance" is "non-Marxist . " Deng Xiaoping meeting, said that the rash advance "is not good, and dampen the enthusiasm of the masses and cadres.
modern Chinese history expert Ding Shu revealed that the most serious famine in Sichuan, Deng Xiaoping not only did not hold the old men Li Jingquan responsibility, also cross the border several times Paul Lee:
"in 1962 month central work conference on the Sichuan Provincial Party Committee Propaganda Department, Deputy Minister uncertainty wrote anonymous letters to the central sue Project Leadership Committee, said Sichuan starve to death, a lot of people, Project Leadership Committee has the responsibility to this anonymous letter was received after the central began Project Leadership Committee in Sichuan group of small meeting check Project Leadership Committee was forced to check, and check also cry out tears, but Sichuan cadres are not satisfied with his inspection, because there are too many starving people in Sichuan. Deng Xiaoping twice to Sichuan go excuse for him, said the review review, so many problems. Sichuan central problem also have the responsibility, then say stop tracing Li Jingquan personal responsibility to protect Li Jingquan have its way. "
* Know the merits or demerits of the "Great Leap Forward"? *
Li Su: Mao Zedong once let his recent leaders, including Liu Shaoqi, Zhu De, Chen Yun, Zhou Enlai go on to do a field survey, this is at what time? Yang Jisheng,
61. 60 years when the situation is more serious, Mao Zedong also suffer from the lack of real information, his bodyguard down the investigation, Zhu De, Zhou Enlai, Chen Yun to investigate, and 61 years as years of research, such a statement . That they suffer from the lack of real information around surrounded by lies, this autocracy. Autocracy highest around surrounded by lies and conspiracy Well, this is the case. Li Su: The
hair how will think of letting them to investigate? He must have been what information.
Yang Jisheng: Of course he get the information, true or otherwise unclear in being ignorant, in fuzzy decision-making is very dangerous, so the 61-year, 60 he might know, 60 December Xinyang incident "broke out, more than a million people dead. Xinyang event "should be said, and not a sensation, do not know when we went to college, but then I learned 1990s Xinyang incident", Chinese people do not know that only senior. The high-level know "the Xinyang event", the following even the province following people do not know, our students, farmers do not know the "Xinyang event". They know, they know that there may be a sense of crisis. Li Su:
originally said that the following cheat above sometimes also pressure below the most senior leaders back down the investigation did not reflect the true situation? Yang Jisheng,
reflect some, such as Liu Shaoqi survey a month back home, Liu Shaoqi was originally followed by Mao Zedong, than Mao Zedong left say extreme, in every speech very powerful, including Hay water speech, Xishui.Hubei speech, in Jiangsu, very extreme radical. Later, back to Hunan investigations month attitude changed.
Commentary: News of the Communist Party of China in the "Liu Shaoqi survey in Hunan rural extended stay forty-four days of this article, April 1, 1961 to May 15,! Liu Shao! qi led central investigation team has The Hunan Province the Ningxiang County wangjiawan the production team, of Changsha County Tianhua brigade and Ningxiang spend Ming House carbon sub rushed the months of investigation. During the investigation, Liu Shaoqi listened carefully to the views of the local people of the commune canteens and 'exaggerating'. Saying agrees to admit him in Ningxiang listening to the reports, the local people on the one-third of natural disasters, the seven man-made "the central policy exists mistakes.
1961 May 31, 2011, Liu Shaoqi in the working meeting of the CPC Central Committee, said: "the problem in recent years occurred in the end due to natural disasters, or due to the faults of our work the middle of it? Hunan farmers In a word, they say 'one-third of the natural disasters, the seven man-made'. "To sum up, not be able to say this: nationwide in terms of, in some places, natural disasters, is the main reason, but I am afraid that not most; in most place, we work the middle of the shortcomings of error is the main reason. "Lisu:
Mao Zedong is not to know the truth? Yang Jisheng,
I think he understood that the partial truth, global stuff is hard to say. Local starve to death across the country, no food to eat, people reflect the spring to 59 years. But he reflected treated as an individual problem. There are such a guiding ideology is local or global? Tributaries still Mainstream? Phenomenon or essence? He (Mao Zedong) total local tributaries, is a phenomenon. So think so. He believes these issues is the relationship of the "nine fingers and ten fingers, ten fingers, nine fingers achievements only" a finger "is a disadvantage. So he start to finish "lift a finger".
* Mao Zedong, a soft spot for the public cafeteria *
Li Su: for instance, we say that the problem of famine as well as people's communes big way in public canteens. Public canteens to accelerate the spread of famine. According to historical records, Mao Zedong ! know publ! ic canteens, and Mao Zedong once said, the cafeteria can not, and ought not gone out of existence. For example, in the March 59 "Zhengzhou Conference.
Commentary: In March 1959, Mao Zedong during the session in Zhengzhou, requested the convening of Henan Province, six cadres meeting "to understand the rural situation. Tens of thousands of cadres to participate in the meeting, as large as the secretary of the provincial party committee, small production team leader, one dare not tell the truth. Only the Luoning County a production captain Li Cheng afternoon abruptly telling the truth, complaining about people's communes free to call the farmers' grain, livestock, livestock and property, "80% of the labor force are transferred to steel refining the ground, but nobody works . everyone pushed canteens dinner ...... canteens have to rest on its laurels, no food to pot the use elm bark, wild improvise eat solution no less than a big hand, the children cry adults downtown lot people harm on edema disease Dundao the the ground and pull up. Mao Zedong personally met March 8 the Li Cheng afternoon, praised, said: "The meeting of representatives of more than ten thousand people, no one dare to tell the truth. Comrade Cheng afternoon, right Well! 'Communist wind' seems real." Mao Zedong presence of Luoyang party secretary, during the Cultural Revolution, a former Politburo member and Deputy Prime Minister said: "Last year, I said in Beidaihe meeting to do the people's communes, did not say called scraping 'communist wind'. ... eat cafeteria Ji Dengkui rice, proved not to engage people's communes, you must remove the canteen. "
Mao Zedong's most powerful weapon, in May 1959, the CPC Central Committee issued instructions say:" The distribution of food to the home, personal voluntary participation (cafeteria), rations according to quantitative and savings all owned has also instructed the the private plots reimbursement members, allows members to private livestock and poultry raising. Yang Jisheng, !
I know Mao Zedong have heard many criticisms of the canteen and the cafeteria, but the hair is a soft spot. He began the "Five Pecks the meters daoists righteous things, eat no more money, he is admired. Later, until Zhengzhou Conference, even Lushan meeting, he hoped to be able to one-third of the line, two-thirds will not do, but one-third line shall it wants, is the big thing. Starving people up to 60 years when, Guizhou Province lies, is the the provinces write commune production survey report, Mao Zedong made a very long instructions, Guizhou scientific investigation report is good, the country must restore the canteen no exception. Mao Zedong throughout public canteen is a soft spot, not shaken, Hu Qiaomu them to Shaoshan to send up to 61 years to Hunan to investigate. Hu Qiaomu write a report, Mao's relatives also wrote a letter to Mao Zedong, Mao Zedong, he did not say disbanded only by farmers voluntarily. The so the canteen before dissolution, 61 years winter canteen dissolution. Li Su: In
June 1959, Mao returned to his hometown of Shaoshan, his meeting with the folks, folks reflect commune canteens No, can not do. Mao Zedong was the folks said: "enough to eat in the cafeteria scattered Well, this way too wasted food." He said.
Yang Jisheng: But then did not realize he villagers a meal. Lisu:
him why his hometown fellow, then do not listen, and he was also the fellow commune canteens dissipated Why turn it insists gone out of existence? Yang Jisheng,
public canteens rulers at that time, not only the ideal of Mao Zedong, eat big pot, which is his ideal utopian ideals of utopian socialism, on the other hand commune canteens gross considered liberation productivity performance cadres, commune canteens are good at management, good control performance, a manifestation of the ability to control the peasants tied to the rope by collective farmers control performance. So not only is the canteen, the farmers home pots and bowls are smashed Well, not home coo! king, let! the smoke. Although Mao Zedong personal Occasionally knowledge, but not his overall fundamental understanding. Overall, in essence, he hope to run the canteen, he is fond of. Commentary:
commune canteens exposed serious problems after Mao Zedong heart do not want to dissolve the public canteens. His side just allow the Shaoshan dissolution of public canteens, there'll be on his way to the Lushan Conference encourages Henan Provincial Party secretary Wu Zhi-po said: "canteen to stick with it." "Do not go to advocate canteen resolutely downfall is firm voluntary, resolutely run. "June 29, 1959, Mao Zedong reiterated in the enlarged meeting of the Politburo Standing Committee to provide good public canteens. Yongyi Song, a professor at the California State University, Los Angeles, the Communist Party of experts revealed, Mao Zedong made around the provincial party committee is responsible for reporting to the central public canteens not want to cancel the canteen, the Sichuan Provincial Party Secretary Li Jingquan match up. Yongyi Song:
Project Leadership Committee, he immediately wrote a letter to Mao Zedong, say the public canteens how good and how we can recover the public canteen. Mao Zedong saw, he wanted to practice Mao Zedong surface on comments implying that refuses to accept he want below to provide him he grips the shells in the upper and Liu Shaoqi, Deng Xiaoping, the pragmatic, Li Jingquan provision of the this time, virtually all public canteens in Sichuan simply open no partner, no food and he (Li Jingquan) nonsense a pass, then Mao Zedong is very proud of, the public canteens or gone out of existence. then more people starved to death.
* Mao Zedong materialists it? *
Li Su: Similar ideas are introduced in detail in books of the year that the Great Famine, a professor at the East China Normal University, a very in-depth study. He said to himself: "Mao think long-term, and Marxism, with a good system, what miracles can be created which is based on a pro! cess whic! h in the practice of the Chinese revolution, he created a miracle of another. he believes he has done a lot of things that a foreigner can not imagine "how do you see this problem? Yang Jisheng,
Mao Zedong, he has a unique awareness On, this deep ideological root cause. Changsha Teachers College studying his youth worship the Liujunzi one very Tan Sitong. Tan Sitong book talk force said, called the "Benevolence, the exaggerated heart, is the ideological role.
Li Su: subjective consciousness. Yang Jisheng,
the book says, the biggest effort, all overwhelmingly. Tan Sitong spiritual strength, what are fail to do so. Mao teacher was also his father-in-law Yang Changji also advocated the effort said the scholar. His article called "Da Zhai diary that people moving great heart, one spirit, anything not a? The Mao Zedong very believe of Tan Sitong and the Yang Changji words. Mao Zedong wrote an article said psychological effect, systematically expounded the strength of the heart. Yang Changji gave him a hundred points, hit out. Mao Zedong said in another article through the origin and source ":" moving the world who want to move their heart, when the heart of the moving world, with the origin and source. "Origin and source is a system of thought. "Jinwu origin and source for the call the heart of the world almost Hath not move?" Origin and source as the fundamental ideology, as a core value called on the world not be tempted. "The heart of the world are moving thing in the world to enjoy and not for those almost?" Mao Zedong on the origin and source to find decades later to find Marxism began to anarchism, and finally to around 1922 he Hesen inspired by Marxism found. He said the banner of Marxism-one, and the world shook, have come along. He is very great importance to the role of ideology, the emphasis on the role of the heart. So he only consciousness theory from young to old, have not been changed. So Similar ideas are introduced in detail in books about Mao Zedong only co! nsciousne! ss theory.
Li Su: Mao Zedong claiming the materialist. Yang Jisheng,
he claimed to be materialist, but is actually the only consciousness commentators.
Li Su: He believes that consciousness is everything. Yang Jisheng,
as long as the heart to, what can be accomplishing. His heart is consciousness, is ideology. Li Su: The
can be said that he was faced with the fact that the "Great Famine", even though he personally understand the situation, he also believes that, as long as his consciousness firm, firm consciousness of people across the country, will be able to break through this off.
Li Su: the final result? Yang Jisheng,
he finally failed, awareness certainly Kangbu Zhu facts Well, finally causing famine, failed it.
* "Great Famine" KMT caused it? *
Li Su: When "Xinyang incident" occurred after the shock the upper layer of the Chinese Communist Party, and they were dealt with. Mao Zedong said this thing into a democratic revolution is not complete, is the remnants of the Kuomintang in the play, he really think so? Yang Jisheng,
I think this is an excuse to shirk responsibility performance. The Xinyang this is the old base, each of the roots of trees, each of the blades of grass, said the revolution contribute. The Zhang Tixue, You Taizhong are there fought guerrilla Xiannian where feelings, the New Fourth Army, there are feelings. So how can you say the KMT remnants of it? Which county party secretary he actually married the landlord's daughter for his wife as the degeneration of the performance, which is certainly an excuse, it is not in line with the historical facts. Lisu:
but it was the leaders of agree with Mao saying it? Yang Jisheng,
Liu Shaoqi identity. Others did not see based. Li Su: Liu Shaoqi,
how to react? Yang Jisheng,
Liu Shaoqi said one-third of the regime in the hands of the enemy thing.
Li Su: what year? Yang Jisheng,
is engaged in "Four Clean Start. The engage Siqing "starving people to engage in the" rectification, "the whole community, the whole grass-roots cadres, is the liquidation they eat too much of the performance of the Great Famine and oppress the people they arrested. Them down, followed four clean. " Than Mao Zedong, Liu Shaoqi Siqing also left, was even more severe.
Li Su: Are there any other high-level leading cadres to be punished? Or not to be punished?
Yang Jisheng: high-level cadres, we just talked about, so-called punishment demoted is removed from the real thing below the county party secretary. Xinyang Prefectural Party Committee secretary the (Road constitution text) is also miserable, had to shoot him. Originally Wuzhi nursery to support him. Wu Zhi-po said Xinyang of food production and how much? He quoted a lot, said Zhang Shufan Commissioner reported less and Zhang Shufan also being criticized. Originally Wuzhi nursery support The party secretary the (Road constitution text). Later batch he did not expect the people across the belly, Wu Zhi-po is very hypocritical, to be approved by the people turn to shirk its responsibility. Later, this man (Luke constitution text) to a farm when the deputy head of the farm, and later re-joined the party. Li Su: The
that some of the cadres below the county level or by a very harsh punishment. Yang Jisheng,
at this level cadres through 61 years of "rectification of the whole society", put the entire responsibility onto the group of people who went to, say these people democratic revolution is not complete, the remnants of the Kuomintang, a lot of these people in jail Punished. Lisu:
that was punished them when nominal said they Kuomintang, rather than the Communist Party have made a mistake? Yang Jisheng,
democratic revolution is not complete, they arrested and training, special training. Out of training camp when strapped to machine guns can not come out, a lot of this case. These people is the gr! ass-roots! cadres. The quality of rural grassroots cadres should not have high riffraff Well, "Black and White Movement" Well, originally qualities is not high, particularly poor people who will later eliminated anymore. Would have high quality people doing bad things in that case may be true. Originally above policies ah, above forcing engage, such as hiding production embezzle, requisition food or farmers eating more vegetables, put farmers killed,, or canteen buckle rice, etc., which are the above policy, system, they were guilty, but all the blame to them, saying that they are the remnants of the Kuomintang, which do not conform to the facts. Xinyang area was originally the old revolutionary base areas, Xinyang each vegetation are active, how could the KMT remnants? In fact, Xinyang as the pilot of the Democratic Revolution, Mao Zedong approved the pilot the country to promote the democratic revolution, started the whole grass-roots cadres. This was later followed by just four clean contact with Siqing "just like the" Cultural Revolution ".
* Mao do not eat meat with the people suffering? *
Li Su: China many people know that, during those years, the national food supply, the supply of food is very nervous, Mao Zedong face of difficulties, and he is determined to no longer eat meat. Him a lot of work to write his memoirs are also regarded as Mao Zedong sympathetic to their needs, write out the bitter with China with Mao Zedong as the leader of the people to be commended. You how to understand the life of Mao Zedong?
Yang Jisheng: after seeing a lot of red walls inside some of the guards Proceedings, and Wang Ruoshui I the eyes of non-Jianxiong. They write can also believe, can not believe. For example, he does not eat meat, we can not eat meat, and excess nutrients. He does not eat meat, but also eat other. I sense in my book menu then baked bran, shrimp, the menu are published, definitely yes. In fact, he do not eat meat, he is the meat, but also eat much special in his life can ! also be u! nderstood, he is the emperor Well, you can understand. But in fact is not the case. Now recently disclosed he smokes dedicated workshop made to give him special, the cost is high; his fish, must be specifically used aircraft from the South; him to eat vegetables, but also specialized species, do not know the cost of high how many times. This is not to say, built many palaces, he is still around how much ah. His hometown of Di Shui Dong, I went to see Di Shuidong when repair his home starving people.
Li Su: 59 years.
Yang Jisheng: He told Zhou Xiaozhou, where I let go of cattle, a fight, you ride huts, etc. I am old and rest there. Zhou Xiaozhou soon collapsed, may also Zhou Xiaozhou did not understand what he meant. Zhang Ping of coming to power immediately after the massive construction projects, engage Di Shui Dong. Zhang Ping of Zhou Xiaozhou successor.
Li Su: You said Di Shui Dong is actually a villa?
Yang Jisheng: a very high-end villa. A large scale, I went to see.
Li Su: repair where? Yang Jisheng,
in a place not far from his hometown Shaoshan, now the car can pass to go there.
Li Su: You went to see, how about there? Yang Jisheng,
: Basic Zhongnanhai buildings inside the hole, defend well, cool in summer and warm in winter, there is a big cave houses are in accordance with the Zhongnanhai, the sofa is very wide, in accordance with the figure of Mao Zedong sofas, beds are like. In fact, he (Mao Zedong) live in small, live. Li Su:
the house to see the square footage? Yang Jisheng,
probably over 10,000 square meters.
Li Su: 10,000 square meters, repair only one of Mao Zedong, and repair during the Great Famine.
Yang Jisheng: was 203 or 302 confidential engineering, people do not know what to do.
Li Su: repair this thing to Mao Zedong know? Yang Jisheng,
: he let repair the thing. He first Zhou Xiaozhou said., Boat ah, I have a child in a fight, let the cattle! you in h! ere to take my shed. Except that I rest, the other leading comrades to rest it. Later, Zhang Ping technology specifically for this massive construction projects. Li Su:
other places in that era to Mao built villas? Yang Jisheng,
have. Such as the Hebei Province repair Tianjin hotel, now known as the first guest house. Repair the four buildings, one of Mao, Zhou, Zhu, Liu a, Mao's most advanced, and now also with yet.
Li Su: which repair? Yang Jisheng,
60 years, the era of the Great Famine. Everywhere, Hangzhou, Shandong provinces basically have, in my book to write a lot, all the palace, in fact, he did not how to live, he has to live, but to you. Lisu:
that Mao Zedong do not eat meat, and Mao Zedong sympathetic to their needs, with the people suffering. Yang Jisheng,
at least less repair a villa enough, meat worth it? the
Conclusion: Although the Chinese official statistics year destroyed, but the truth of the great famine continue to emerge. Although Chinese official propaganda put through a variety of aura to those senior leaders, but a variety of unknown words and deeds constantly being exposed to people's attention. The saying goes: "To people I do not know, is done by night." Please continue to pay attention to the Voice of America "decryption time. Li Su, our next goodbye.
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